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Another 33 to play
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Tim Chow
2016-10-27 01:19:46 UTC
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XGID=--BbB-BAAA-AcBb--a-eb-B--A:0:0:1:33:0:0:0:0:10

X:Player 1 O:Player 2
Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O X |
| X O | | O O X |
| | | O |
| | | O |
| | X | O |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | |
| O | | |
| O | | X X O X |
| O X X X X | | X X O X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 154 O: 153 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 33

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Tim Chow
m***@gmail.com
2016-10-27 11:31:04 UTC
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Post by Tim Chow
XGID=--BbB-BAAA-AcBb--a-eb-B--A:0:0:1:33:0:0:0:0:10
X:Player 1 O:Player 2
Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O X |
| X O | | O O X |
| | | O |
| | | O |
| | X | O |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | |
| O | | |
| O | | X X O X |
| O X X X X | | X X O X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 154 O: 153 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 33
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Tim Chow
For me there are only 2 choices. a)Make the 5pt or b)the pedestrian move of covering everything with 11/8 9/6 7/4. Now I had to use a board to see how the end result of each looks like. I had no board with me so I did it on GNU. Unfortunately I saw the solution too. So I won't participate.
For those who will, i suggest you use a board before you decide.
m***@compuplus.net
2016-10-30 10:18:02 UTC
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.... I had no board with me so I did it on GNU.
Unfortunately I saw the solution too. So I won't
participate.
You won't participate? When?? Tomorrow???

MK

BTW: you know you can use XG for free forever, no..? ;)
Tim Chow
2016-10-28 21:09:32 UTC
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XGID=--BbB-BAAA-AcBb--a-eb-B--A:0:0:1:33:0:0:0:0:10

X:Player 1 O:Player 2
Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O X |
| X O | | O O X |
| | | O |
| | | O |
| | X | O |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | |
| O | | |
| O | | X X O X |
| O X X X X | | X X O X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 154 O: 153 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 33

XGR++ says to make the 5pt despite leaving a double shot. Anything else is
a whopper or worse.

1. XG Roller++ Bar/22 11/5 8/5 eq:-0.113
Player: 46.20% (G:13.82% B:0.49%)
Opponent: 53.80% (G:13.65% B:0.53%)

2. XG Roller++ Bar/22 11/8 9/6 7/4 eq:-0.230 (-0.116)
Player: 43.96% (G:10.35% B:0.31%)
Opponent: 56.04% (G:13.46% B:0.47%)

3. XG Roller++ Bar/22 9/6 8/5 7/4 eq:-0.292 (-0.179)
Player: 42.35% (G:11.64% B:0.40%)
Opponent: 57.65% (G:15.58% B:0.63%)

4. XG Roller++ Bar/22 13/7 11/8 eq:-0.321 (-0.208)
Player: 41.99% (G:11.11% B:0.42%)
Opponent: 58.01% (G:16.06% B:0.64%)

5. XG Roller++ Bar/22 13/10(2) 11/8 eq:-0.331 (-0.218)
Player: 41.75% (G:12.13% B:0.47%)
Opponent: 58.25% (G:17.13% B:0.74%)

6. XG Roller++ Bar/22 13/7 9/6 eq:-0.337 (-0.223)
Player: 41.45% (G:12.10% B:0.49%)
Opponent: 58.55% (G:17.17% B:0.77%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.208.pre-release

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Tim Chow
Walt
2016-10-31 17:36:11 UTC
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Post by Tim Chow
XGID=--BbB-BAAA-AcBb--a-eb-B--A:0:0:1:33:0:0:0:0:10
X:Player 1 O:Player 2
Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| X O O | | O O X |
| X O | | O O X |
| | | O |
| | | O |
| | X | O |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| | | |
| O | | |
| O | | X X O X |
| O X X X X | | X X O X |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 154 O: 153 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 33
The obvious play is to enter and then make the seven and eight points.
Alternatively, one could make the five point. That leaves a double
direct shot plus an indirect (4 6 8), while making the seven and eight
leaves a double direct( 1 6).

the adage is "when in doubt make the five point", but I'll make the more
solid blockade and leave (hopefully, I haven't actually counted) fewer
shots.

bar/22 13/7 11/8
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//Walt
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